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on: February 11, 2018, 13:43

Week 4 – Reading #3 – Hypnotic Language and More Bullshit

Hypnotic Language and More Bullshit

There is a legend about Ernest Hemingway in which he was challenged to write a short story in a single sentence. The words he came up with, according to the legend, were: For sale: baby shoes, never worn. Similarly, the shortest science fiction story is often credited to Frederic Brown (which appears as part of a longer story, “Knock”): The last man on Earth sat in a room. There was a knock on the door...

What these two examples have in common, in literary terms, are backstory and foreshadowing. A whole heck of a lot of backstory and foreshadowing. In terms of transformational grammar, backstory and foreshadowing refer to information in the Deep Structure that is presupposed by the Surface Structure. That information makes the expressed language interesting, intriguing, exciting – yet it doesn’t have to be overtly present. It is there to excite the imagination.

Backstory and foreshadowing are usually put forward in the form of presupposition, information that is implied by the language, but not overtly included. If I say “When did the snake get so big?”, the question presupposes that the snake was once smaller. It isn’t stated overtly, but remains part of the information conveyed by the sentence. Generally, if pointed out, you may find that a presupposition of this sort is something that you understood, but did not consciously pay attention to until it was called to your attention. “If you appeal to your own better nature, you can solve anything” presupposes that you have a “better nature” of your own. “Do you want to really learn?” presupposes that learning to this point has not been real. “How many of those chocolate bars did you eat?”, presupposes that you ate some number of chocolate bars. And so on.

Presuppositions come in a variety of forms. We’ll examine just a few here:

1) Basic presuppositions: These include information related to the meaning of the words themselves. For instance:
I like the cat. 1. there is something called a cat. 2. this cat can be either liked or not. 3. there is someone, "I", capable of liking a cat. 4. the cat is being liked in the present (like as opposed to liked.) Beware of hallucinatory inferences: we cannot say that it was a pet cat, for instance; we don't even really know if we are talking about a domestic animal here - it may be a lion, a drawing of a cat, or the writer may have been referring to the fact that s/he enjoyed having the cat for dinner. It is too much of a generalization to say that, for instance, the person "I" is an animal lover; this may be the very first cat s/he has ever liked. We are also left hanging on the "where?" question -- we can't even say, "in a place where there is a cat," because the speaker may be discussing a distant feline.
The dog ate the cat. 1. there is something called a cat. 2. there is something called a dog. 3. the dog is capable of eating. 4. the cat is capable of being eaten. 5. the writer of the sentence believes that s/he has enough sensory evidence to make the statement. 6. it took place in the past.

2) Time: before after, during, as, since, prior, when, while, etc.
I’ll give an example after you learn the different cases. (Presupposes that you will learn the different cases.)
While you make yourself comfortable, I’ll begin. (Presupposes you will make yourself comfortable.)

3) Or:
Would you rather go into a trance before or after I tell a story;
Would you be more comfortable e-mailing your responses or posting them in the forum?

4) Awareness predicates: know, aware, realize, notice
Have you noticed the effect that this language has on you?
Do you realize that you’re already going into a trance?

5) Change of time: begin, end, stop, start, continue, still, etc.
As you continue to relax…
Are you still interested in learning about words?

6) Commentary words: fortunately, happily, obviously, luckily, innocently, etc. These generally presuppose everything after the first word.
Fortunately you’re intelligent enough to understand this.
Obviously this stuff is pretty simple.

EXERCISE #1
Create at least two sentences for each category of presuppositions, above, (basic, time, or, awareness, change of time and commentary) and identify for us what is presupposed.

When studying the language used by master hypnotist Milton Erickson, NLP co-founders Bandler and Grinder noticed that some-but-not-all of the linguistic structures Erickson employed were, in a sense, a backwards version of the Meta-Model. That is, instead of using language to uncover missing or distorted Deep Structure, Erickson deliberately used deletion, distortion and generalization to encourage his hypnotic subjects to fill in their own experiences, to create Deep Structures based on Erickson’s own spare Surface Structures. Erickson’s methods were, in short, to help his clients access their own imagination. What follows are some of the “Inverse Meta-Model Patterns” identified by Bandler and Grinder:

Deletion:
“I know you are happy.” “You can be curious.”
If we were asking Meta-Model questions, we might ask “happy about what?” Or “Curious about what?” For hypnotic effect, however, such statements are made to encourage the listener (or reader) to go inside and identify what they, personally, might be happy or curious about.

Lack of Referential Index:
“People can use hypnotic language.” “This is something you can explore.” “She has a certain something.”
The reader, here, must use imagination to think about which people, what s/he can explore, and just what exactly that certain something might be.

Unspecified Verbs:
Verbs such as think, wonder, learn, understand, explore, remember, do, change, among others, are less specified than, for instance, feel, hear, see, run, walk, throw, dance, etc.
“I hope you can learn.” “One day you’ll understand.” “What can you do?”
These encourage the reader to think about what and how they can learn, understand and do.

Nominalizations:
Again, these are words that take the place the place of a noun in a sentence, but can’t be put in a wheelbarrow. Understanding, curiosity, love, knowledge, hypnosis, freedom, beliefs, truth, communication, relationship, and so on, are all nominalizations.
“Our political party stands for freedom.” “Knowledge is power.” “Don’t you believe in family values?”

These allow the reader to fill in their own concepts of freedom, knowledge and family values.

Note that these kinds of patterns can be very effective for hypnotists and other spoken-word artists; however, if you lay it on too thick in text, if there are too many unspecified terms, the reader will tend to go internal, space out and stop reading. While there may be times when you want to encourage introspection, for the most part, well-written prose will include enough sensory-based content and solid ideas to keep the reader’s interest. Practice these patterns here, but use them creatively and sparingly when you write.

EXERCISE #2
Create at least two sentences for each category above – demonstrating use of Deletion, Lack of Referential Index, Unspecified Verbs, and Nominalizations.

We’ll examine a couple more “Milton Model” patterns that are particularly useful.

1) Linkage: there are a variety of words that link ideas together and create a sense of cause-and-effect. The causality may be suggested, but not necessarily true. The mildest form of linkage uses the word and to link ideas.
You are reading this and you are beginning to understand.

There are a lot of interesting language patterns and you will be able to use them creatively.

A somewhat stronger form of linkage uses as, when, during and while to connect ideas.

As you read this, you can begin to think of new ways to play with text.

While you are experimenting with these ideas, your mind can go into creative overdrive.

The strongest form of linkage actually states causality using words including forces, makes, causes, etc.

Reading this text makes you smarter.

Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise.

Predatory credit practices cause the economy to founder.

For the most part, using the milder forms of linkage helps the reader to smoothly connect ideas and can improve the flow of your text. Using the stronger forms of linkage often causes the reader to raise the bullshit flag.

2) Included Structure: Included structure refers to any case in which a suggestion, command or message is found within another sentence. There are all different ways to do this – and some of the cases are actually quite commonly used. In spoken language, these may be marked out with tonality changes, volume changes or gestures, among other things. In written text, they can be marked out with font changes, italics, bold, etc. – however, doing so makes the suggestion more overt and less of an unconscious influence. The following examples are marked out in italics for teaching purposes only.

a. Conversational Postulate

Can you tell me the time?

Is it possible for you to fill out this form right now?

b. Negative Command – for the mind to process a negative command, it is necessary to first conceive of the idea being negated. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4bvYCqER9Y&feature=related

Don’t click here now.

Don’t think of a purple octopus.

c. Quotes

Milton Erickson used to say, “Go into a trance noooooow.”

Ben Franklin used to tell people, “Put something into quotes and no one can argue with it.”

d. Lesser Included Structure – Pretty much any other case where you can indirectly include a suggestion into another context.

I really do hope you can enjoy this class as you do the exercises!

Old school hypnotists were very direct when they told someone to go into a trance.

Bill Clinton walked to the front of the stage and said, “I know that you, like me, are concerned about the issues.”

EXERCISE #3

Write at least three sentences that demonstrate use of linkage and at least three sentences that demonstrate use of included structure.

EXERCISE #4

Find some text, either from the How to be a Megalomaniac course site or from elsewhere on the Web that demonstrates a variety of Milton Model patterns. Identify and explain the usage of the patterns.

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Post Re: Week Four - Reading #3 - Bullshit Language
on: February 13, 2018, 09:36

Deletion:
“I know you are happy.” “You can be curious.”

"You can have a sense of joy."
"Delightfulness is coming your way.”
“You love doing that.”
“It manifest a relaxing sensation and connectedness.”
“You might wonder what happiness is."

Lack of Referential Index:
“People can use hypnotic language.” “This is something you can explore.” “She has a certain something.”

"People have found themselves in happy moods.”
“She is strong character.”
“They developed their own sense of well being.”
“Mastery comes faster to those that want it.”

Unspecified Verbs:

“Think about how awesome that would be.”
“Learn all their is to know about feeling good.”
“Explore your surrounding's to find what feel right to you.”
“Maybe some day soon you can wonder what it’s like to feel good now.”
“ Do you always create happiness every where you go?”

Nominalizations:

“Following our leaders brings fulfillment.”

“Develop a sense of curiosity when going through the creative process."the

1) Linkage: there are a variety of words that link ideas together and create a sense of cause-and-effect. The causality may be suggested, but not necessarily true. The mildest form of linkage uses the word and to link ideas.

I am speaking about something and you begin to feel good.
There are plenty of fish in the sea and you will find someone who appreciates you.
Optimistic people tend to live longer and you can think about that while you develop you own positive mind set.

There are many shades of green when you look at a patch of grass, think about that as you contemplate your many options during your transition into a better life.

Letting go of past troubles makes your life better, sorta like losening your grip on the string of a ballon causes it to drift away.
Smiling creates happy chemicals in your brain and you can do that anytime.

2) Included Structure: Included structure refers to any case in which a suggestion, command or message is found within another sentence. There are all different ways to do this – and some of the cases are actually quite commonly used. In spoken language, these may be marked out with tonality changes, volume changes or gestures, among other things. In written text, they can be marked out with font changes, italics, bold, etc. – however, doing so makes the suggestion more overt and less of an unconscious influence. The following examples are marked out in italics for teaching purposes only.
One time on the road with friends we developed a fun game which involved a forced laughter if we saw a red car. This made us feel really good and I don’t know why we did it however I do know that was a really short trip filled with a lot of laughs and good times.
a. Conversational Postulate
Is it possible to do lunch now?
Can you help me now?
Can you tell me the time?

b. Negative Command – for the mind to process a negative command, it is necessary to first conceive of the idea being negated. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4bvYCqER9Y&feature=related
Don’t chill out to fast.
Let’s just not have a good time?
You can sign up or don’t sign up.

c. Quotes
My mother always told me “ shit or get off the pot”
I took an online course about Megalomania and the teacher fill said “quit your fucking job”
One time this saw me doing something I wasn’t suppose to and he said “stop that now”
One time I was at a party and this dude yelled “get naked and dance!”
EXERCISE #3
Write at least three sentences that demonstrate use of linkage and at least three sentences that demonstrate use of included structure.
d. Lesser Included Structure – Pretty much any other case where you can indirectly include a suggestion into another context.
I have been able to develop a relaxed mind and so can you.
One way or another if you work at it you can develop a positive mind set.
We have been able to make a decent amount of money (feeling good about it) by our method of teaching other’s about design.
I hope someday we can build something together.

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Post Re: Week Four - Reading #3 - Bullshit Language
on: February 14, 2018, 17:54

So I thought it was going to be easier to discover the patterns in the megalo copy, and it was ( BUt I bit off more than I could chew.) A lot of those patterns that you used Phil seemed to be patterns built into other patterns, with all kinds of embbeded commands. That was laid on pretty thick I'm curious is you could recomend any authors or influencers that are aware of those same patterns but use them in more subtle ways?
Pandoras box has been opened and there is no getting the toothpaste back into the tube.

That's right! It's back!

The mock seminar that ended it all by unleashing the secrets of world domination

(if you think it hasn't all ended, just wait!) -deletion & time- this is pattern is creating anticipation (maybe it is warping my mind by creating a frame)

has returned to titillate our avarice and make megalomaniacs of us all!
(Or if you're not that crazy, use what you learn to protect yourself from those who are!) -or- This pattern is creating a double bind. You either wanna manipulate or protect yourself from manipulation.

Want to learn the secret keys to manipulating the masses? -unspecified verb with a conversational postulate-

Do you want followers, henchmen and lackeys to serve your every need? -unspecified verb with a conversational postulate-

You're either a sick puppy or a True Megalomaniac AND you'll absolutely LOVE this video recording of two seminars by Philip H. Farber that explore the skills and techniques used by gurus, televangelists, politicians and advertisers to build their empires.-or pattern with a deletion- the viewer is again in a double bind, either sic or a true megalomaniac. (Whats a true megalomaniac?) And then assumes we will love it.

THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MAJOR FUN WHILE YOU LEARN REAL SKILLS! -deletion- assumes we will have fun while we learn the skills( there is also a lesser structure (learn real skills)
Filmed in low-quality video with extra-high-quality information!

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on: February 15, 2018, 16:26

Haha! You went right for the deep bullshit! Actually, that hype began as a spoof of a wave of seminar advertisers who were all using a document called "Joe Vitale's Swipe File" to mix and match various hypnotic advertising phrases. I don't know if Joe still sells that thing, but I still see some ad copy out there that looks like it was generated with the swipe file. Joe has moved on to more woo-woo law of attraction subjects, but if you can find his old stuff on hypnotic writing and ad copy, it's worth a look. Other sources for these language patterns include Bandler and Grinder's "Patterns in the Hypnotic Technique of Milton Erickson, vol. 1", and a lot of time spent listening to the Reverend Ivan Stang.

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on: February 16, 2018, 10:53

"In those day's YOU HAD TO SIN your way into BOb's town."
"there sticking to the tar baby of Bob."
"Bob Dobbs did not die for your sins because he DOES NOT CARE FOR YOUR SINS."

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on: February 17, 2018, 13:05

Exercise #1:

1) Basic presuppositions:
• I like discovering new places.
• Most people are good.
2) Time:
• After you finish your assignment, we’ll get into groups to go over the answers.
• When you get to Kingston, you’ll meet a lot of interesting people.
3) Or:
• Would you rather start class with a math game or with practice problems?
• You could wash dishes or clean the bathroom.

4) Awareness predicates: know, aware, realize, notice
• Are you aware that you already know how to do this problem?
• Do you realize you’ve already done this hundreds of times?

5) Change of time:
• As you continue to build your understanding of these concepts, you will begin to see results.
• As you begin to master these techniques, your ability to achieve your dreams will increase tenfold.

6) Commentary words:
• Luckily, you already have all the knowledge you need to be successful in this class.
• Obviously, we all want to be successful.

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  1. Phil

    Welcome everyone to the Meta-Magick Forum where the discussion is open to any topic related to magick, NLP, hypnosis, neuroscience, memetics, meditation, and consciousness exploration.

  2. cable123

    Looking for someone to practice with James in Essex County, New Jersey
    contact me at jmcc527200@comcast.net

  3. mduxx3

    hi.can u practise alone Brain Magick or practising depends on a group,if so which Phil’s book can i get to practise alone because the are no study groups here S Africa.

  4. BrandonB

    Breakthrough

    We started out with set and setting. Candles, Shpongle, comfortable chair, handmade warm blanket (it was in Chicago in the winter after all) the pipe was prepared in advance. 80MG spice with some cannabis to support it in the pipe and keep the DMT from burning. I closed my eyes and breathed deeply for a few moments. My guide, my friend of many years, had volunteered to help me and she waited patiently until I was ready. I took the first hit and held it as long as I could, handing the pipe off to my guide.

    It was deep, and I thought, was that it? It was very comforting and full of love, I felt so good. I rememeber just laughing and laughing. Then it hit me, I wasn’t done, not by a long shot. I asked for the pipe again and took another hit, even bigger, clearing most of the material in the bowl. I held that until the room started to come apart.

    I knew then that I had enough. I was out of my body in an instant, rushing right through the barriers that had always held me back. I remember sending the signals back to my body to keep breathing, keep my heart beating. I felt the autonomous nature of my body shudder and stumble a bit, but that didn’t last long. At first, I saw the cartoony hallucinations, monkeys banging cymbals, geometric shapes spinning in endless variety and expanse. When I looked closer, I realized that was just another barrier, a projection from my own thoughts. I… pushed on it, for lack of a better word, and it fell away. Then I was gone. I ceased to exist. My once cohesive sense of self was scattered over an area so large, it dwarfed the capacity of human understanding. It was everything and nothing. The entire universe flew though me in an instant. In that instant, I knew everything. I had a perfect clarity of understanding. I knew then that I wouldn’t be able to remember it all, the gray matter wasn’t capable of storing it all, but it didn’t matter. I knew I would never again need to wonder about the WHY of it all. My brain was not constructed to contain it.

    There was a moment of fear, a moment of wondering where I was, how I would get back. In that moment all my prior experience came back to me, and two spirit guides appeared to me. I call them the architects, and they had been present for most of my smaller DMT experiences. They comforted me through that period, and then I understood that fear, the meaning of ego interruption, the loss of self and why so many people were scared to do it. I rememered all the other DMT experiences that I had helped with and witnessed, and the challenges I had seen and I understood all of it. I was full to the brim with understanding beyond words. An eternity of knowledge coursed through me. It was the ultimate satisfaction of every curiosity I had ever felt. It was sublime, but incredibly difficult to maintain for long.

    I knew the source of every religion, every ideology. I knew how an incomplete understanding of it could be distorted into almost anything. My own understanding is woefully incomplete but I could see that, know why, and release myself of the burden of attempting to understand it. I didn’t need to share it, I didn’t need to explain it.

    There was a point of transition, a magnetic field of some sort that interacted with the scattered particles of my now completely shattered sense of self. It was very scary, but my guides were there to remind me that I had nothing to fear. Passing through that barrier was slower on the way back, I felt those particles begin to collect back into a familiar shape. I had a strong sense of a field of white and blue waves or particles. It was warped in a way that defies Euclidian geometry. I felt the overwhelming feeling start to fade and I knew the DMT was breaking down in my body, the exquisite tuning of my brain into the greater cosmic reality was fading, retuning to the shared reality tunnel of this physical world. I remember opening my eyes for a second and the room was hugely distorted. I could hear Terrence McKenna’s voice on the Shpongle track talking about gnomes. I told him that I didn’t see any gnomes but I saw everything else and started laughing, cackling. I could feel the love and support from my friend as she watched, making sure I was OK, it was a beacon that helped me to slip seamlessly back into my body. I knew I was alive, but I also knew why and how in a way I had never understood before. I knew that I was alive by choice, not because I was afraid to die.

    The layers of understanding that remain are disjointed and chaotic but coalescing. There are so many things that I was relentlessly hunting that I no longer need to look for. I can’t explain or describe everything I experienced, but I knew in that moment that it was all according to plan and there was no need to try to put it into words this brain could process. What I brought back, I feel like has value beyond anything I have ever experienced as it is. I don’t need to name it, I don’t need to define it, I know beyond knowing that for one moment I knew that it was set up for a reason, a good reason, but something that I have no context to understand, and my physical body lacks the means of fully comprehending it. Some would call it God, I’m reluctant to use that term, but it was certainly a realm of thought beyond the material.

  5. Mikhael

    Looking for someone in the Sierra Foothill near Fresno, Ca to practice with.

  6. Tatiana

    I’ve had an interesting experience with symbols, language, and gestures throughout my life, far before discovering the labels that “Magick” put on these things. Magick gave me the collective words that could help me communicate what I was already doing with others for them to understand. This was treasured and priceless since I quite know what it feels like to not be able to communicate with the world. I moved from Italy when I was seven years old, not knowing much English (although my family did their best to teach me ahead of time). Thrown into American schools not knowing the language gave me a unique perspective on other ways to communicate, the gift of solitude, the collective importance of gestures, and much more. From this point on, gestures, sound, various ways of communication became crucial to me. At 17 I began formalizing it… into small rituals with more structure than when I was 7. I made recitations that functioned to clear the air between people entering my space… since I realized I was an empath early on. This is why this exercise makes me smile.

    This exercise formalizes something I already do… which is nice. 🙂

    My activity: taking a walk
    The Ritual Frame: ( i struggled with this… making it way too long, academic and hard at first) simplified it to, “I will walk as a clear channel to the divine.”
    Gesture: Drawing down of light from Keter to Tipareth… a finger above the head touching white light and pulling it down to Tipareth at the Anahata chakra.
    The Closing: a simple adoration of “thank you” and touching the Anahata chakra

    I will test it out walking to the bus tomorrow after my morning routine.

    tatiana

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