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Phil
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on: February 12, 2012, 18:48

Got new techniques that you've worked out? Interesting experiences to relate? Post them here!

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Brendan
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on: February 13, 2012, 00:56

Speaking of techniques, experiences, symbolic content, sensory modalities, and the lucid dream technique for this week - here's something that might be connected with all 5. I'm not sure what it is, and I'd be interested to know if anyone else has experienced it.

Every once in a while as I fall asleep, and sometimes while already dreaming, the following will happen - I'll lose touch with my body (in the normal way as you fall asleep), and shortly afterword I feel like I am being compressed into a smaller and smaller space. There is also a sound like a freight train coming towards me, and a white light that either takes up my visual field or is growing brighter. All this happens at the same time, and it is very disconcerting.

Sometimes (usually, these days) I have no clue what is going on and I jerk myself awake because I think I'm dying or something. When I practiced dream and astral projection techniques a lot, along with sobriety, I was able to remain aware and ride it through. Many times, if I were able to ride it through I would find myself lucid dreaming. Perhaps sometimes I wind up dreaming normally. If I am not able to ride it through, I wake up.

This is an extremely vivid and shocking thing that has happened to me (or that I have done) many times, and it seems to be connected to dreaming and lucid dreaming. Has anyone else gone through this? Does anything different happen to you as you fall asleep? How do you experience your wake/sleep/dream transitions?

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on: February 13, 2012, 12:46

Hey guys, it's okay that this is here... but just so you know, this folder is in the public area, not the class area. Maybe chase this one back into Week Four Discussion?

For those who are here for the public forum - we are presently working on the Practical and Experimental Magick online course, which happens in a private forum here, that can only be seen by registered class members. We're more than halfway through the course, so it's not, er, practical to take on more participants... but watch these forums for announcements of upcoming online courses!

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on: February 19, 2012, 15:38

Magical Entourage / modified version /:
1. When you encounter difficult situation and bad feelings arise think for people that can deal best with the situation.
2. Think and concentrate for a few minutes.
3. After maybe 3 or 5 minutes your feelings will change into positive.

Experiences:
1. I work in massage business. Sometimes unsuccessfull feelings come to my mind. I use this technique to overcome these feelings.
2.When I work with women in a salon of beauty there is a memetic entity that I want to call " Fear from males " I sense it every time, when some man with leadership traits enter the salon and in some other situations. I use Magical Entourage to change the feelings of fear coming from the entity and from the auras around me.

Phil
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on: February 19, 2012, 19:56

Thanks! This is interesting. You use the figures of actual people that you know in the place of the entities? That's a great method, depending, of course on who you know.

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on: April 30, 2012, 15:45

I am aware your work usually focuses more on invocation and evocation, but I was wondering if you could offer your opinion on the difference between sigil magic and creative visualisation? I am a silva method graduate, and have since become more interested in materials like yours and chaos magic and modern magic. Its dawned on me though that creative visualisation and sigils are kind of different tools that do the same thing. a lot of authors of magic books write about both techniques, but I'm never sure when you might want to choose one over the other, or if it really is just two different techniques and you should do whichever you feel drawn to?

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on: May 14, 2012, 12:00

Cheero, sorry for the slow response, was away from the computer teaching NLP classes. Anyway, I think you have it right. Sigils and creative visualization are different tools that came be used to the same ends. In Meta-Magick: The Book of Atem, I explore a few methods of using sigils for evocation. (And much else in my work could be considered akin to creative visualization, tho I often include more senses than visual.) The answer to the question of which to use when is: experiment. It's different for everyone. Test out the different methods and find out which ones work best for you in which circumstance.

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  1. Phil

    Welcome everyone to the Meta-Magick Forum where the discussion is open to any topic related to magick, NLP, hypnosis, neuroscience, memetics, meditation, and consciousness exploration.

  2. cable123

    Looking for someone to practice with James in Essex County, New Jersey
    contact me at jmcc527200@comcast.net

  3. mduxx3

    hi.can u practise alone Brain Magick or practising depends on a group,if so which Phil’s book can i get to practise alone because the are no study groups here S Africa.

  4. BrandonB

    Breakthrough

    We started out with set and setting. Candles, Shpongle, comfortable chair, handmade warm blanket (it was in Chicago in the winter after all) the pipe was prepared in advance. 80MG spice with some cannabis to support it in the pipe and keep the DMT from burning. I closed my eyes and breathed deeply for a few moments. My guide, my friend of many years, had volunteered to help me and she waited patiently until I was ready. I took the first hit and held it as long as I could, handing the pipe off to my guide.

    It was deep, and I thought, was that it? It was very comforting and full of love, I felt so good. I rememeber just laughing and laughing. Then it hit me, I wasn’t done, not by a long shot. I asked for the pipe again and took another hit, even bigger, clearing most of the material in the bowl. I held that until the room started to come apart.

    I knew then that I had enough. I was out of my body in an instant, rushing right through the barriers that had always held me back. I remember sending the signals back to my body to keep breathing, keep my heart beating. I felt the autonomous nature of my body shudder and stumble a bit, but that didn’t last long. At first, I saw the cartoony hallucinations, monkeys banging cymbals, geometric shapes spinning in endless variety and expanse. When I looked closer, I realized that was just another barrier, a projection from my own thoughts. I… pushed on it, for lack of a better word, and it fell away. Then I was gone. I ceased to exist. My once cohesive sense of self was scattered over an area so large, it dwarfed the capacity of human understanding. It was everything and nothing. The entire universe flew though me in an instant. In that instant, I knew everything. I had a perfect clarity of understanding. I knew then that I wouldn’t be able to remember it all, the gray matter wasn’t capable of storing it all, but it didn’t matter. I knew I would never again need to wonder about the WHY of it all. My brain was not constructed to contain it.

    There was a moment of fear, a moment of wondering where I was, how I would get back. In that moment all my prior experience came back to me, and two spirit guides appeared to me. I call them the architects, and they had been present for most of my smaller DMT experiences. They comforted me through that period, and then I understood that fear, the meaning of ego interruption, the loss of self and why so many people were scared to do it. I rememered all the other DMT experiences that I had helped with and witnessed, and the challenges I had seen and I understood all of it. I was full to the brim with understanding beyond words. An eternity of knowledge coursed through me. It was the ultimate satisfaction of every curiosity I had ever felt. It was sublime, but incredibly difficult to maintain for long.

    I knew the source of every religion, every ideology. I knew how an incomplete understanding of it could be distorted into almost anything. My own understanding is woefully incomplete but I could see that, know why, and release myself of the burden of attempting to understand it. I didn’t need to share it, I didn’t need to explain it.

    There was a point of transition, a magnetic field of some sort that interacted with the scattered particles of my now completely shattered sense of self. It was very scary, but my guides were there to remind me that I had nothing to fear. Passing through that barrier was slower on the way back, I felt those particles begin to collect back into a familiar shape. I had a strong sense of a field of white and blue waves or particles. It was warped in a way that defies Euclidian geometry. I felt the overwhelming feeling start to fade and I knew the DMT was breaking down in my body, the exquisite tuning of my brain into the greater cosmic reality was fading, retuning to the shared reality tunnel of this physical world. I remember opening my eyes for a second and the room was hugely distorted. I could hear Terrence McKenna’s voice on the Shpongle track talking about gnomes. I told him that I didn’t see any gnomes but I saw everything else and started laughing, cackling. I could feel the love and support from my friend as she watched, making sure I was OK, it was a beacon that helped me to slip seamlessly back into my body. I knew I was alive, but I also knew why and how in a way I had never understood before. I knew that I was alive by choice, not because I was afraid to die.

    The layers of understanding that remain are disjointed and chaotic but coalescing. There are so many things that I was relentlessly hunting that I no longer need to look for. I can’t explain or describe everything I experienced, but I knew in that moment that it was all according to plan and there was no need to try to put it into words this brain could process. What I brought back, I feel like has value beyond anything I have ever experienced as it is. I don’t need to name it, I don’t need to define it, I know beyond knowing that for one moment I knew that it was set up for a reason, a good reason, but something that I have no context to understand, and my physical body lacks the means of fully comprehending it. Some would call it God, I’m reluctant to use that term, but it was certainly a realm of thought beyond the material.

  5. Tatiana

    I’ve had an interesting experience with symbols, language, and gestures throughout my life, far before discovering the labels that “Magick” put on these things. Magick gave me the collective words that could help me communicate what I was already doing with others for them to understand. This was treasured and priceless since I quite know what it feels like to not be able to communicate with the world. I moved from Italy when I was seven years old, not knowing much English (although my family did their best to teach me ahead of time). Thrown into American schools not knowing the language gave me a unique perspective on other ways to communicate, the gift of solitude, the collective importance of gestures, and much more. From this point on, gestures, sound, various ways of communication became crucial to me. At 17 I began formalizing it… into small rituals with more structure than when I was 7. I made recitations that functioned to clear the air between people entering my space… since I realized I was an empath early on. This is why this exercise makes me smile.

    This exercise formalizes something I already do… which is nice. 🙂

    My activity: taking a walk
    The Ritual Frame: ( i struggled with this… making it way too long, academic and hard at first) simplified it to, “I will walk as a clear channel to the divine.”
    Gesture: Drawing down of light from Keter to Tipareth… a finger above the head touching white light and pulling it down to Tipareth at the Anahata chakra.
    The Closing: a simple adoration of “thank you” and touching the Anahata chakra

    I will test it out walking to the bus tomorrow after my morning routine.

    tatiana

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